After a 4 hour ride at endurance pace or zone 2. I get an average and NP in zone 2...so far so good....but acording to Coogan and Allen...my IF shows active recovery..0,66..it was not recovery atall...it was a hard enduramce ride. Could some body tell me why?..I did not change my newton settings nor my FTP.
Thank you
IF
Re: IF
The IF I mean comes from isaac and newton
Forget about zones...I ride at %FTP that equal to endurance...acording to velocomp or training peaks they ate about the same...and i get an average and NP...of endurance...but If..shows...0.66..wich means Active Recovery...all date come from ibike
Forget about zones...I ride at %FTP that equal to endurance...acording to velocomp or training peaks they ate about the same...and i get an average and NP...of endurance...but If..shows...0.66..wich means Active Recovery...all date come from ibike
Re: IF
.66 is endurance so I think the issue is with Coggan/Allen. Are you looking at HR tables instead of power tables?JoseJ wrote:After a 4 hour ride at endurance pace or zone 2. I get an average and NP in zone 2...so far so good....but acording to Coogan and Allen...my IF shows active recovery..0,66..it was not recovery atall...it was a hard enduramce ride. Could some body tell me why?..I did not change my newton settings nor my FTP.
Thank you
POWER ZONES
< .60 active recovery
.60-.75 endurance
.75-.90 tempo
.90-1.05 FTP
Fernando
Re: IF
Typical IF values for various training sessions or races are as follows:
Less than 0.75 recovery rides0.75-0.85 endurance-paced training rides0.85-0.95 tempo rides, aerobic and anaerobic interval workouts (work and rest periods combined), longer (>2.5 h) road races0.95-1.05 lactate threshold intervals (work period only), shorter (<2.5 h) road races, criteriums, circuit races, longer (e.g., 40 km) TTs1.05-1.15 shorter (e.g., 15 km) TTs, track points raceGreater than 1.15 prologue TT, track pursuit, track miss-and-out
I hope you are right.. but these values are from traingpeaks and from allen s book traing and racing with a powermeter..and they refer to power not to heart rate
So...either there is a mistake im the book or. I am wrong
about something i am missing
Less than 0.75 recovery rides0.75-0.85 endurance-paced training rides0.85-0.95 tempo rides, aerobic and anaerobic interval workouts (work and rest periods combined), longer (>2.5 h) road races0.95-1.05 lactate threshold intervals (work period only), shorter (<2.5 h) road races, criteriums, circuit races, longer (e.g., 40 km) TTs1.05-1.15 shorter (e.g., 15 km) TTs, track points raceGreater than 1.15 prologue TT, track pursuit, track miss-and-out
I hope you are right.. but these values are from traingpeaks and from allen s book traing and racing with a powermeter..and they refer to power not to heart rate
So...either there is a mistake im the book or. I am wrong
about something i am missing
Re: IF
Understood, I went online and found the numbers you refer to. FWIW, .66 for more than four hours is no recovery ride. That's a hard ride that falls smack into endurance in my opinion.
The iBike and Newton math is spot on so I guess things have changed since the first edition of Training and Racing...
Anyone have both books to compare?
The iBike and Newton math is spot on so I guess things have changed since the first edition of Training and Racing...
Anyone have both books to compare?
Fernando