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Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:44 am
by myuce
Hello everyone,
I paired my new iAero to one set of sensors, but cannot seem to do another pairing for the second set of sensors. I haven't done any profiling yet, so iAero doesn't have any profiles in it. Is that the problem?
Thanks for your help,
Mehmet
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:04 am
by racerfern
iBikes used to be shipped with a "default" profile just to get you up and going in preparation for you coastdowns. So there should be some kind of usable profile that sensor pairings will get attached to.
Assuming you switched to Profile 2, did you set WLS to ON and FIND for all the sensors?
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:45 am
by myuce
Fernando,
I guess I don't quite understand how this works. I have two different profiles made with my old iBike Pro that I didn't send to the new unit yet. I know they are in the software. Should I send them to iAero now? And what do you mean by "switching to a second profile"? I know I do this when I choose the appropriate profile before a ride, but what is the connection to the pairing process?
Thanks for answering,
Mehmet
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:52 pm
by racerfern
Let me back up a step and confirm that you have a new Gen3.
Assuming that, go to the setup screen and stop at the screen that says Set PrOF. Press the center button. It should say PrOF 1. If it does, press the center button again and exit setup.
Now using iB3 software send one of your two profiles to the unit. Once that is confirmed, take the unit and go back to the same Set PrOF screen. Press the center button and it should say PrOF1. Now press the up button and it should switch to PrOF2. Press the center button and exit setup.
Using iB3 send the OTHER profile. It will end up in Profile #2.
Assuming you have the correct IDs in both profiles they will transfer correctly to the unit.
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:01 pm
by myuce
Yes, I do have Gen3, and I sent the two profiles to iBike. Now, what do I do to pair the unit with the sensors on my second bike (it is already paired with the sensors on my first bike). Enter the setup and wireless configuration screen, change speed and cadence from "paired" to "find", then just follow the usual procedure?
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:00 pm
by racerfern
Correct. However make sure you are pairing for the correct profile. Assuming profile 1 is working fine then switch to profile 2. THEN go to WLS CFG and do as you described.
So Profile 1 has its profile and unique wireless ids for that bike.
AND
Profile 2 has its own profile and unique wireless ids for the second bike
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:22 pm
by myuce
I tried again tonight. One of the profiles seems to have its ids, because as I go through the configuration screen, I can scroll through "find", "none" and "paired" options. When I switch to the other profile, "paired" is not included in those screens for any of the sensors. So I put the unit on the new stem mount and try to pair the new set of sensors for my second bike, but I always get the "wls fail" message. Is there anything obvious that I'm overlooking? And a couple of questions I'm curious about: What happens to these id numbers if I delete a profile? And what is the reason for pairing the heart rate transmitter twice, isn't it the same in both cases?
Thanks,
Mehmet
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:01 pm
by racerfern
"Paired" is not included because that profile may never had any pairing process completed. All you might see is "None" and "Find". Obviously select "Find". Activate the sensors by spinning the crank, and hit the center button back on the main screen.
If you delete a profile, that's it, you deleted the profile and all its info including the pairing info. If you really want to keep the pairing info, write down the wireless ids that are part of the profile and save them in a file for later retrieval if necessary.
Not everyone has the same HR strap. You might have one bike at home and another setup with a separate strap at another location. So it's a good idea to ask you to pair the HR strap a second time.
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:45 pm
by myuce
Thanks for taking the time to answer Fernando,
It looks like I'm stuck trying to do the second pairing. It keeps failing. Any other suggestions from anyone else? I was thinking maybe I should start the pairing from scratch. Does that change anything? Is it even a good idea? And keeping my curiosity going here: What happens when I have two profiles for one bike, like I did with my old iBike? Same ids get attached to both profiles?
Mehmet
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:50 pm
by racerfern
For the second pairing, flip the batteries in the sensors, even though that shouldn't be necessary. Flip the battery in the wireless head too. I can't think of any good reason why one set of sensors should pair and not the other set.
If you have two profiles for one bike, you could read profile #1 and write down the sensor ids. Then open profile #2 punch in those same id numbers and send it to the iBike as profile #2. Make sense?
As a last resort you could flip the battery in the iBike itself and reset the unit. You won't lose the pairing info but if anything was out of sequence that should correct it.
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:36 pm
by myuce
Fernando,
Finally I got some time today, so I did what you suggested and flipped the battery in the unit. I was able to pair both set of sensors. Thanks for helping out. However, in one set, speed keeps failing. Would you know why that could be?
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:00 am
by racerfern
[quote="myuce"However, in one set, speed keeps failing. Would you know why that could be?[/quote]
As you're riding? That would indicate poor magnet location in relation to the sensor or bad battery in the sensor.
If you get spd fail after a minute or two while standing still, you just need to "wake up" the sensor before riding.
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:22 am
by myuce
Not riding, but standing still and after waking up the sensor by rotating the wheel. It tries to find speed for a while but apparently it can't.
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:21 am
by lorduintah
Your magnet for the speed sensor could be too far away from the sensor - getting only a weak signal. Check the location and spacing to see if that helps. Also you may have a weak magnet - swap with the other bike and see if that makes any difference. Have you replaced the battery in the wireless connector on your handlebar? It also could be weak. Get the two bikes away from each other when doing all of this - you could be getting interference, too.
Re: Pairing the second set of sensors
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:26 am
by racerfern
Just confirm both the wireless head battery and the sensor battery are good. You should also be able to hear a faint clicking sound from the sensor when the magnet passes by.
You could also try switching your CAD and SPD sensors. Just flip the little switch inside and switch their positions. It's worth a try. Remember that as soon as you remove the battery on a sensor you'll get a new ID and this will get picked up by the iB3 software the next time you do a download. Also make sure you're on the correct profile for the bike you're working with.
If all that fails, drop Velocomp an email. You may have a bad sensor.