GPS with newton

jslopez93 · Post by **jslopez93** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:01 am

It's been posted that ibike folk will have some clever way of adding (importing?) gps info with newton.

Information may not be ready for public consumption yet but I figured I'd put a post so it's easier to track down once information becomes available.

calgot · Post by **calgot** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:13 am

Any news on this?

Velocomp · Post by **Velocomp** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:24 am

We are working on some other things right now, but this is now near the top of the plate.

calgot · Post by **calgot** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:49 am

It would obviously be very interesting to know some more details....

racerfern · Post by **racerfern** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:04 am

jslopez93 wrote:It's been posted that ibike folk will have some clever way of adding (importing?) gps info with newton.

Are you currently merging your GPS data with the Newton data in Isaac?

jslopez93 · Post by **jslopez93** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:22 pm

I am not and am curious to find out the steps (I have an Iphone 4).

Thanks!

TriBike · Post by **TriBike** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:39 pm

* Export the GPS data into a format that iBike can open. For GPS data, this will typically be GPX, TCX, or FIT. (Note that Isaac can also import text exports from SRM SW & Poweragent for Powertap, and HRM files from the Polar SW.)
* Make sure you have advanced menus set so they can view the necessary menu item later: View -> Menus -> Advanced
* Open the iBike ride file to merge the GPS data into.
* Select File -> Merge Data from Another Device...

The SW will show the speed signal from both the iBike and the GPS file and will show how well aligned they are. The user will then be given the opportunity to select which data signals to merge into their iBike file.

racerfern · Post by **racerfern** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:16 pm

So which app do you use on the iPhone?

jslopez93 · Post by **jslopez93** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:22 pm

Mainly using strava but open to gettin otehr programs.

are these merged file compatible with trainingpeaks?

racerfern · Post by **racerfern** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:21 pm

Using Strava you can download the ride file in TCX format and merge it with the iBike data in Isaac.

However, you should be able to export your iBike file as a CSV or TCX, then upload to training peaks even though it doesn't have GPS data. After all, the interest is in the power data.

rstrom · Post by **rstrom** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:17 pm

We are working on some other things right now, but this is now near the top of the plate.

So, does this mean that you're working on another / different way of getting GPS data into an iBike ride file - i..e. something different than merging the file with a Garmin; iPhone; or Android phone GPS file?

Something that wouldn't require the use of two computer units?

Thanks,

Robert

rstrom · Post by **rstrom** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:41 am

Must be to busy working on it ....

Velocomp · Post by **Velocomp** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:39 pm

We're busy, working on a lot of things

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:46 am

Velocomp wrote: We're busy, working on a lot of things

Great! Keep up the good work!

I have yet to be anything less than tickled with the improvements coming efforts effort!

Thanks,
Russ

jayt · Post by **jayt** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:35 pm

John,

It has now been more than half of a year since your last reply on this. What amazing solution have you guys come up with?

Regards,
Jay

Velocomp · Post by **Velocomp** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:38 pm

We haven't forgotten about this. Coming soon...

seanw18 · Post by **seanw18** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:39 am

I'm sure other people have already worked this out but I couldn't find any mention of it so I thought i'd post in case it helps someone else....

I have a newton with the GT firmware upgrade and a sony xperia android phone with ant+. Using an app called ipbike https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... bike&hl=en I can record the speed cadence and ibike power data directly and then upload from the phone directly to strava (also RunKeeper, TrainingPeaks and Attackpoint) without using isaac every day to merge gpx files. The app works well even though the user interface isn't the best.

While my phone has built in Ant+ capability I notice that there are usb host ant+ dongles available for android now too http://www.iforpowell.com/cms/index.php ... -ant-stick.

I'm sure the new official functionality will surpass this solution, but for the moment this saves me a lot of hassle.

donnybike · Post by **donnybike** » Mon May 13, 2013 3:24 pm

seanw18 wrote:I'm sure other people have already worked this out but I couldn't find any mention of it so I thought i'd post in case it helps someone else....

I have a newton with the GT firmware upgrade and a sony xperia android phone with ant+. Using an app called ipbike https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... bike&hl=en I can record the speed cadence and ibike power data directly and then upload from the phone directly to strava (also RunKeeper, TrainingPeaks and Attackpoint) without using isaac every day to merge gpx files. The app works well even though the user interface isn't the best.

While my phone has built in Ant+ capability I notice that there are usb host ant+ dongles available for android now too http://www.iforpowell.com/cms/index.php ... -ant-stick.

I'm sure the new official functionality will surpass this solution, but for the moment this saves me a lot of hassle.

Thanks for good info!
It is a great way to include GPS data into a newton ride file!
Will Velocomp use this solution to incorporate GPS into the ride file?
Is Newton + GPS Near to release?
Thanks!

turingdesign · Post by **turingdesign** » Wed May 15, 2013 7:59 pm

Really dumb question,

just to confirm, we can get power from the newton over ANT+? I thought we could only use teh newton to read signals from other sensors, not supply power data to a garmin GPS or what not...

If that's the case I am going to use a garmin bike gps to read power from my newton...

thanks
Andrew

KimG · Post by **KimG** » Thu May 16, 2013 6:43 am

Andrew,

I use a Garmin 500 to record everything (power, speed, location, etc.) but to get the power figures from the Newton you will need to get the GT upgrade installed on your iBike. Once the upgrade is done the Newton starts transmitting the power signal that the Garmin 500 can read.

Kimball

jayt · Post by **jayt** » Thu May 16, 2013 3:42 pm

I solve the problem exactly the same way as KimG. GT upgrade that outputs power to my Garmin Edge 500. Now that the Newton is so good at making corrections and adjustments during the ride and thus really does not require processing after the ride, the numbers are good.

jayt · Post by **jayt** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30 pm

It has been quite some time, any comment on the ingenious solution for how to integrate GPS data with the Newton other than the file merge option in Isaac or sending the power data to something like a Garmin GPS for recording?

Velocomp · Post by **Velocomp** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:26 am

jayt wrote:It has been quite some time, any comment on the ingenious solution for how to integrate GPS data with the Newton other than the file merge option in Isaac or sending the power data to something like a Garmin GPS for recording?

Yup. Here's a Newton file recorded yesterday, with GPS data in it. There were no changes to the Newton, except for a key that was installed into it...and something else. Click on the Google Earth icon to see where the ride happened!

How does it work? Extremely well;

more details very soon.

jayt · Post by **jayt** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:27 pm

John,

Very nice. Now you do have my attention. I hope I can add it to my current Newton. I don't mind paying for a software key (just don't get too carried away with the price). Looking forward to the announcement. Hey, if you need beta testers, drop me a line!

Jay

seanw18 · Post by **seanw18** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:27 am

doh! Maybe I shouldn't have purchased the GT key ...

ronpei · Post by **ronpei** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:01 pm

never tried that before, can do the same thing with my merged Garmin file, nothing new required, still pretty cool.

jazclrint · Post by **jazclrint** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:00 am

Is there an advantage in accuracy by letting Issac merge the GPS data and then sending it to Strava? Seems like cell phone GPS tracks, while getting better all the time, aren't the most accurate.

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